Many thanks, I set up this working group for any further correspondence. I suggest that the Muinich group discuss these points when the typeset version of UFT244 is ready and if there are any outstanding points please discuss with this working group. It would be interesting to try a Compton scattering experiment with two electron beams at ninety degrees. The background to this work is UFT158 to UFT170 on www.aias.us. Do oyu have the apparatus in Munich to try an RFR experiment using a circularly polarized radio frequency beam interacting with electrons in a beam, foil, semiconductor or plasma?
Sent: 29/07/2013 01:29:45 GMT Daylight Time
Subj: Re: PS to Bernhard FoltzDear Myron
Since the meeting in Aberystwyth I received so many wonderful mails, so
I need a very long time for to answer all. So I must please you to
forgive me the late reply.Thanks for the papernotes 244(5) and your additional hints.
Thanks also for your understanding of my love to discuss. For me is
this, together with your intuition and – last not least – the
experiment, an important part of doing science.I will meet Horst for to talk about your formulae, and for this goal I
have typed your hand written text into the computer, together with a
slightly modified naming of the variables, and some questions for to
discuss – see attachment.Regards,
BernhardEMyrone@aol.com schrieb, Am 29.06.2013 09:24:
> I understand that you come from a tradition of the discussion method,
> (as opposed to my inductive method), but I suggest that Horst and
> yourself go through this not line by line, and also the rest of the
> group. It will be seen that the idea of a photon mass being the same
> as the electron mass leads directly to eq. (12), which is the usual
> equation of the Compton effect. Your suggestion of experiments is
> always interesting, and to me RFR is the most interesting. The
> mathematics of this note are very simple, and anyone with an O Level
> should be able to understand them. If the mathematics are ducked by
> those trained in mathematics, then no progress will be made.
> Specifically:
> 1) Equation (1) is the relativistic conservation of total energy when
> a photon with mass collides with an electron. Note carefully that
> TOTAL energy is conserved.
> 2) Equations (2) and (3) are the de Broglie equations fro photon and
> electron.
> 3) Equation (4) is conservation of energy with a static photon, total
> energy is again conserved.
> 4) Equation (5) is a rearrangement of eq. (4).
> 5) Equation (6) describes the complete transfer of energy from photon
> to electron, without binding energy.
> 6) Equation (7) is a consequence of equation (6), mass of electron
> equals mass of photon.
> 7) Equation (8) is what is observed in the photoelectric effect.
> 8) Equation (9) introduces the binding energy.
> 9) Equation (10) is conservation of total energy in the presence of
> binding energy.
> 10) If the photon and electron masses are equal, the usual equation of
> the photoelectric effect is recovered, equation (12).
> The mass of the photon being equal to the mass of the electron is
> perfectly consistent with the usual theory of the photoelectric effect.